The Duck Dynasty Suspension, and the Trojan Horse

I agree with the philosophy that it is not always best to completely shy away from that which is ugly, because it behooves one to know what his opponents are thinking and doing.  So I will post a URL for the sfist blog post on Phil Robertson’s being suspended from Duck Dynasty: 'Duck Dynasty' Kingpin Says Homosexuality Is Like Bestiality [Update] (http://sfist.com/2013/12/18/duck_dynasty_kingpin_says_homosexua.php)

This comes from a secular San Francisco blog, and for those who do not mind the profane language, etc. you want to read the post and especially the comments that follow.  Read along and see if any of the liberal criticisms or allegations aimed at those without a seared conscience are actually valid; read and see if you begin to get the sense that some of the rank and file of the opponents of the Creator, regarding this issue, actually are not very well-armed.

Actually, what the heck?  Allow me to go ahead and personally just quote the post in toto and break in with comments along the way:

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<< Phil Robertson, the daddy duck to the camo-clad Robertson clan featured on A&E's reality blockbuster Duck Dynasty, is quacking up a storm [apparently a semi-clever, derisive choice of words I didn’t catch at first--K] in the latest issue of GQ. In a profile by the magazine's Drew Margary, the 67-year-old Robertson let fly a whole flock of homophobic comments about homosexuals, and what he feels is their sinful lifestyle.

Robertson, who hails from the northwest corner of Louisiana "where Cajun redneck culture and Ozark redneck culture intersect," regularly captivates 14 million viewers on his family's reality show on A&E. But unlike the majority of Americans, he's not down with LGBT. [*Hint, hint.*  By analogy, if the majority of Germans during the time of the Third Reich were down with the NSDAP (aka the Nazi Party), the sheer fact of majority status would be a good reason for the minority to adopt the NSDAP philosophy.  The majority status consequently would also be a good reason for the minority to support the Nazis’ inclusion of homosexuals as targets of the wider Holocaust, in keeping with the said philosophy.  This sort of thing should be obvious, yet this is the lame sort of reasoning that facets of the Gay Lobby are peddling nowadays.  (Compare our previous look at the “wrong side of history” meme.)--K]  As he told GQ:

    "It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical."

Then, when asked what, in his mind, was considered sinful, Robertson elaborated:

    "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says. Then he paraphrases Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

Robertson, who once had to flee the state of Arkansas because he assaulted a bar owner and his wife, says he never bothered repenting for his own sin, saying, "I didn’t dredge anything back up. I just put it behind me.” His son and reality TV co-star Jep even suggested the family tends to fall in line behind their father. GQ quoted Jep saying, "We’re not quite as outspoken as my dad, but I’m definitely in line. If somebody asks, I tell ’em what the Bible says.”

With the backlash already brewing, the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation condemned the reality TV stars [sic] toxic philosophy. [Toxic only inasmuch as proclamations of truths about the Creator’s design of the human body have a way of stirring up people’s intuitive knowledge in a way that hampers the goals of the Gay Agenda,and toxic inasmuch as it causes us to face the harsh theodic realities of the fallen, post-Edenic world in which we live.  I’ll leave it at that, for now.--K] In a statement, GLAAD wrote that the statement is "far outside of the mainstream understanding of LGBT people." [What is GLAAD suggesting here: that Phil Robertson said that all homosexuals engage in bestiality and promiscuity?  Surely GLAAD must know that Robertson merely was either: a) answering the question posed to him of what was considered sinful; or b) likening a man’s lying with another man to other acts which pervert the use or design of the human body; or c) asserting that a moral compromise on the issue of homosexuality would lead to other compromises of sexual ethics whether in the case of many people or a few people; or d) some combination of (a-c).--K] Even in Louisiana, which passed a constitutional amendment banning marriage equality, a majority of the population believes there should be some kind of recognition. [Again, by analogy if the majority of Germans during the time of the Third Reich gave special (even privileged) recognition to the Nazi Party, the sheer fact of majority status would would be a good reason for the minority to adopt the philosophy of the NSDAP.  Of course, this philosophy called in part for the Nazis’ inclusion of homosexuals as targets of the wider Holocaust, but apparently some people who want to help gay people as such do not mind offering arguments which are logically counterproductive.--K] GLAAD goes on:

    "Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil's lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe," said GLAAD spokesperson Wilson Cruz. "He clearly knows nothing about gay people or the majority of Louisianans - and Americans - who support legal recognition for loving and committed gay and lesbian couples. Phil's decision to push vile and extreme stereotypes is a stain on A&E and his sponsors who now need to reexamine their ties to someone with such public disdain for LGBT people and families." [Get real, Cruz.  Again, is GLAAD suggesting that Phil Robertson said that all homosexuals engage in bestiality and promiscuity?  Surely GLAAD must know that Robertson merely was either: a) answering the question posed to him of what was considered sinful; or b) likening a man’s lying with another man to other acts which pervert the use or design of the human body; or c) asserting that a moral compromise on the issue of homosexuality would lead to other compromises of sexual ethics whether in the case of many people or a few people; or d) some combination of (a-c).

And speaking of matters of deceit, Mr. Cruz, why can’t it be that there are “true Christians” out there who hold beliefs which simply happen to be false when it comes to what LGBT folks do and think?  For example, there are Christians who think that Arminianism is true, or that Calvinism is true: not both sides on this issue can be correct, but you don’t want to say that one side’s false beliefs on the matter means that they are not “true Christians,” which surely you must know.--K]

A&E, for their part, fired off another statement from Robertson on Wednesday, which did little in the way of making an apology. Robertson writes: "I myself am a product of the '60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”

Update: Robertson has been placed on indefinite hiatus by the network.  [And if he backpedals on what he said I will lose respect for him.  There are people on MSNBC or any number of other TV channels who say that which is complete BS, in my view, just as it is also my view that their liberal rubbish creates an equally toxic environment for all the people that they claim to be helping or fighting for with their false statements.  I do not, however, think that their employers should necessarily pull the plug on them.  Is American society already forgetting why we allow and encourage people to express their varied and diverse set of viewpoints in this country?  Or is A&E simply attempting to figuratively cover their backside for financial reasons?--K] >>

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Incidentally, I am one of those people who have never watched the show and are probably proud of this fact.   My final words are reserved for the commenter J_Temperance: save scholarship for the scholars, or at least begin to offer a good reason to ignore 2 Peter 3.14-16.

Actually, per this last statement allow me to say one last thing, though I do not claim that this is an original thought.  We all know that there are people in this world who will not sit still until every last vestige of opposition to the Gay Agenda is stamped out, whether through political pressure or force of law.  These people go as far as to peddle “liberal Christian theology” on TV shows (e.g. Glee) which otherwise would not give a rip about what is said in the Book of Leviticus or in Pauline Epistles but somehow find a way to mention them in the course of “standing up” for a gay character of the show or gays and lesbians in general.  So these people are willing to meddle in the affairs of dragons or to venture into places where they neither fit nor belong in order to stamp out opposition to their agenda.  In other words, pagans and unbelievers are willing to engage in biblical textual criticism even though Christians themselves, who generally are far better acquainted with biblical texts and their background, sometimes err with regard to biblical texts.

Some of these people are willing to destroy Paul’s “credentials” as an apostle of Christ in order to make their own lives easier.  In the process they destroy the reliability of all Pauline texts of the New Testament.  Not content to stop there, they obfuscate and destroy the words of other prophets or spokesmen sent by God, including Jesus of Nazareth.  Now think about what the results of their actions will be.

But do not think that the results will be entirely theological.  Remember that man’s fallen nature prompts him to pick on and target people on account of their being different; for example, this is why there are various jokes and slurs related to one’s hair color, weight, sex, ethnicity, race and place of residence.  Once you have managed to make various conservative groups disappear into the shadows or to cease to exist entirely, some other group must be scapegoated or targeted for godless, rebellious, bored liberals and moderates to rally, rage and fight against in a way that currently substitutes for various unbelievers’ lack of spiritual and religious life.  One hundred years from now when the droughts come, and the crops fail, and yet another financial bubble bursts, who will the lynch mobs, agitators, thugs and “anarchists” come after?  Will it be the witches this time?  Will it be the Jews?  The Mexicans?  Southerners?  Poor White trash?  The rich?  In the Western World, which will never completely shake its Judeo-Christian past and where in Russia (for example) there is a growing backlash against the Gay Agenda for reasons which almost certainly are irreligious on some levels, gays and lesbians (and other folks) should not feel especially safe.  Christianity will have largely been rendered obsolete by secular moralism and through theological liberalism: it won’t be around in sufficient strength to temper the agitators or to be a target of the people’s anger in the stead of those who are markedly different than the majority of folks.

Those who proffer “liberal Christian theology” to silence the voice of conscience in their own heads: if they are half as wise as they should be then they will cease and desist this nonsense immediately and allow the Bible to be the perfectly “homophobic” book that it is.  Leave well-enough alone and don’t be greedy, especially if half of all Americans already think as you do, as you claim.